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8. READ THE DAMN BOOK! | MICHELLE PAGNOTTA, M.A., L.P.C.A

Today I sat down with Mental Health Counselor, Writer, Humorist, My friend, Michelle.


We got philosophical on, her journey to become a counselor, the Lessons she learned will living on a reservation, how she’s integrated faith and spirituality into practice, and she gave little wisdom on how we can find a greater power than yourself.


I’m so freaking happy to have recorded proof of just how insightful she is. She is one of the most thought-provoking individuals I have ever met and to sit down and talk with her for a couple hours was (no-pun intended) so therapeutic for my mind and my soul. We mentioned a ton of books in this episode, check out the show notes to see our recommendations.

Let me know what you think this conversation, give it a rating and hit subscribe so you never miss another miss another episode….ENJOY


Topics of discussion

  • Journey that led you to counseling

  • Your experience on the reservation

  • Exploration of spirituality and FAITH

  • Finding a power greater than yourself



Media Mentioned

Books

TV shows

  • Through the wormhole with Morgan Freeman

Podcasts

  • Reply All

  • Heavyweight

  • Mystery Show


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